Congressman Sean Duffy (WI-7) and the Plaidcast return with an interview of Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner (WI-5) recorded before the shutdown.

Sensenbrenner says the Democrats are putting ideology before people on the DACA issue.

“This is a question of Republicans putting people first and Democrats putting ideology first,” Sensenbrenner said. “The fact of the matter is, any relief for DACA kids has got be signed by Donald Trump. And unless there’s a bill that he can sign, then nothing is going to happen.”